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ACCOUNTING ARC

Students Redefine “Career Readiness” | ARC – SLC

…And it has less to do with technical skills than firms expect.

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Accounting ARC – Student-Led Conversations
With Arpan Grewal and Harshita Multani
Center for Accounting Transformation

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As the accounting profession continues to grapple with talent shortages, shifting expectations, and generational change, one podcast is addressing those challenges from a rarely centered perspective: students themselves.

In an end-of-year episode of Student-Led Conversations, hosts Arpan Grewal and Harshita Multani reflect on a year of interviews alongside Donny Shimamoto, CPA.CITP, CGMA, founder and inspiration architect of the Center for Accounting Transformation. The episode serves as both a retrospective and a case study of what happens when students are entrusted with real platforms and real responsibility.

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The idea for Student-Led Conversations emerged after Grewal appeared on an episode of Accounting ARC, where she interviewed seasoned professionals about their careers. What surprised her most was not the technical content, but the personal stories.

“I realized accounting isn’t just about numbers,” Grewal says during the episode. “It’s about people.”

That realization became the foundation for a student-hosted series that explores career paths, mental health, failure, advocacy, and professional identity — topics often absent from traditional recruiting or classroom discussions.

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ACCOUNTING ARC

Downgraded: What the DOE Said About Accounting | ARC

A new definition of “professional degree” limits loan access for accounting students and raises fresh alarms about equity, access, and pipeline. 

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Accounting ARC
With Liz Mason, Byron Patrick, and Donny Shimamoto
Center for Accounting Transformation

When the U.S. Department of Education released its negotiated language for implementing the “One Big Beautiful Bill” Act’s graduate loan reforms, most accountants probably did not expect to see their field at the center of a political storm. 

But in draft rules tied to the law, accounting master’s programs are not classified as “professional degree” programs for purposes of federal student loan caps.  

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That classification matters. Under the new structure, beginning in July 2026, graduate students may borrow up to $20,500 per year, with a $100,000 lifetime cap, while “professional students” are allowed up to $50,000 annually and $200,000 total. Medicine and law make the professional list. Accounting does not. Neither do nursing, education, architecture, social work, nor several other fields that traditionally are seen as high-skill professions. 

In this episode of Accounting ARC, co-hosts Liz Mason, CPA; Byron Patrick, CPA.CITP; and Donny Shimamoto, CPA.CITP, CGMA, unpack what that reclassification could mean for the accounting pipeline—and for how the profession sees itself. 

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ACCOUNTING ARC

Savage: Use Your License as a Megaphone | ARC – SLC

Small acts of involvement add up to big wins for the profession and the public.

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Accounting ARC – Student-Led Conversations
With Arpan Grewal
Center for Accounting Transformation

Advocacy often appears on television as protest marches, campaign rallies, or contentious debates. But in a recent Accounting ARC – Student-Led Conversations episode, host Arpan Grewal and guest ZeNai Savage, CPA, recast advocacy as something more grounded and accessible: a series of everyday decisions about when to speak up, who to invite in, and how to use professional skills for public good.

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Savage is not a typical accountant. She is the founder of The Savage Advantage, a consulting firm that provides outsourced controller work, budget development, governance support, and board training to nonprofits and civic organizations. She also writes and speaks through Blurred Lines, a personal platform built on the belief that people do not have to separate their faith, professional life, and community service into neat compartments.

For Grewal, a Gen Z student leader, Savage’s path offers a concrete example of how young professionals can blend technical careers with civic engagement.

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Hopson: Stop Turnover Before It Starts | Know-How Korner

Use hope to shift stress, strengthen culture, and keep talent.

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Know-How Korner
With Donny Shimamoto
Center for Accounting Transformation

Know How Korner, hosted by Donny Shimamoto, aims to translate peer-reviewed findings into practical actions for firms. In a recent episode, Shimamoto interviews Katelynn Hopson, assistant professor of accounting at Arkansas Tech University, whose dissertation quantifies a deceptively soft concept—hope—and links it to how public accountants experience stress and consider leaving their firms.

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Hope, in the research literature, is not vague optimism. Psychologist C. R. Snyder frames it as goal-directed cognition comprising agency (“the will”) and pathways (“the ways”). Hopson studies state hope—how hopeful someone is about a specific time frame or event—rather than broad personality-level trait hope. State hope moves; it can be built or eroded by experience and context.

“People who have higher levels of hope are more likely to want to stay and less likely to feel burned out,” Hopson explains.

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ACCOUNTING ARC

Baker: Interpreting Pricing Psychology | ARC – SLC

Price discrimination segments customers by what they value most. 

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Accounting ARC – Student-Led Conversations
With Harshita Multani
Center for Accounting Transformation

On Accounting ARC – Student-Led Conversations, host Harshita Multani interviews Ron Baker—author, educator, and sought-after speaker—about price discrimination and the psychology behind everyday pricing. Across coffee shops, hotels, streaming platforms, and movie theaters, Baker says the same principle repeats: value is subjective, so pricing must be, too.

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Baker argues that pricing “behaves like art” because people don’t act like predictable particles. The goal is not perfect prediction, but rather constant testing: offering options, observing behavior, and refining strategy. That framing aligns with a growing body of hospitality research that shows how subtle cues—like removing the “$” symbol—change spending patterns. Cornell researchers find diners spend significantly more when menus list numerals without currency signs, a choice many premium venues intentionally make.  

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ACCOUNTING ARC

Shutdown Shockwaves: How Accountants Keep the Government’s Books From Crashing | ARC

Decode the financial fallout—where payables stall, nonprofits scramble, and the IRS slows to a crawl.

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Accounting ARC
With Liz Mason, Byron Patrick, and Donny Shimamoto
Center for Accounting Transformation

When the federal government shuts down, headlines focus on politics. But behind every furlough and frozen budget lies a deeper story—one told through accounting cycles, payroll ledgers, and cash flow reports. 

In the latest episode of Accounting ARC, hosts Liz Mason, CPA; Byron Patrick, CPA.CITP, CGMA; and Donny Shimamoto, CPA.CITP, CGMA, break down what really happens when appropriations stall and the business of government grinds to a halt. 

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“This is the kind of thing accountants think about,” Mason says at the start of the episode. “What’s the actual technical answer? What does a shutdown mean for accounts payable, for payroll, for the IRS? What’s really happening behind the scenes?” 

Their discussion reveals a complex web of accounting impacts—from unpaid invoices and delayed reimbursements to frozen nonprofit grants and confused taxpayers. 

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ACCOUNTING ARC

Strategic AI, Not Shiny Objects | ARC

Leaders tie AI to real workflows, not wish lists, and adoption follows. 

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Accounting ARC
With Liz Mason, Byron Patrick, and Donny Shimamoto
Center for Accounting Transformation

Accounting leaders are accelerating AI deployment across tax, audit, and advisory—but three accounting veterans and hosts of Accounting ARC argue the difference between adoption and shelfware comes down to focus, guardrails, and relentless training. 

On the latest episode, hosts Liz Mason, CPA; Byron Patrick, CPA.CITP, CGMA; and Donny Shimamoto, CPA.CITP, CGMA; dissect how large firms are approaching Microsoft Copilot and adjacent tools. They agree that leaders should start now, but do so strategically. 

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Patrick, CEO of VERIFYiQ and co-founder and educator at TB Academy, opens with a caution that resonates across enterprise tech cycles: many organizations feel pressured to adopt generative AI without clearly defining expected outcomes. He urges leaders to ask what success specifically looks like, whether that is fewer review points, faster cycle times on close, or reduced audit adjustments. 

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ACCOUNTING ARC

Don’t Get Fired by Your Own Automation | ARC

“Waiting this one out is not an option. The rate of change is too fast.”

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Accounting ARC
With Liz Mason, Byron Patrick, and Donny Shimamoto
Center for Accounting Transformation

Artificial intelligence is not replacing accountants; it is replacing the parts of accounting that accountants least want to do. That is the consensus of Liz Mason, CPA; Byron Patrick, CPA.CITP, CGMA; and Donny Shimamoto, CPA.CITP, CGMA, who devote the latest Accounting ARC to reframing AI as an accelerant for professional judgment rather than a threat to jobs.

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Patrick, CEO of VERIFYiQ and founder and instructor for TB Academy, begins with a familiar refrain from social media: AI will put accountants out of business. Mason, CEO of High Rock Accounting, answers with little patience. If a practitioner’s value is “typing numbers into a screen,” she says, then replacement is inevitable. The hosts argue that firms win when they let technology handle the typing and redeploy human time to analysis, communication, and decision support.

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ACCOUNTING ARC

What Amazon Doesn’t Tell You | ARC

Returns ripple through revenue recognition, inventory, and environmental reporting.

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Accounting ARC
With Liz Mason, Byron Patrick, and Donny Shimamoto
Center for Accounting Transformation

Accounting ARC hosts Liz Mason, CPA; Byron Patrick, CPA.CITP, CGMA; and Donny Shimamoto, CPA.CITP, CGMA, use a YouTube investigation into Amazon’s return ecosystem as a springboard to examine the financial realities behind frictionless refunds. They agree that returns are a strategic cost center that must be engineered into product pricing, platform choice, and tax compliance from the start.

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Higher return rates are the rule online. U.S. retailers estimated that 16.9% of 2024 sales—about $890 billion—were returned, according to the National Retail Federation and Happy Returns. The cost of reverse logistics, shrinkage, and fraud compounds the hit to gross margin. “If you want the increased revenue from Amazon sales, it’s going to come with increased returns,” Shimamoto says. “You can’t have the reach without the cost.”

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ACCOUNTING ARC

Royalties, Residuals, and Reality Checks | ARC-SLC

CPAs translate fame into cash flow, contracts, and accountability. 

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Accounting ARC – Student-Led Conversations
With Harshita Multani
Center for Accounting Transformation

In a special episode of Accounting ARC: Student-Led Conversations, student host Harshita Multani interviews Jeff Frable, CPA, CGMA, a partner at CCK Strategies in Tulsa, Okla.; Aurmaudra Bradley, CPA, president of the NABA Indianapolis Chapter; and video producer Dave Maresca with the Center for Accounting Transformation and CPA Trendlines, about the financial mechanics behind modern entertainment—and the accountants who make the numbers work. 

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The panel opens with favorites ranging from the movie “Back to the Future” to the TV show “Lost,” then quickly moves to the business beneath the screen. Bradley says the shift from box office and album sales to streaming platforms fundamentally changes how talent gets paid and how accountants track performance. She points to the recent labor actions in Hollywood as an example of residual models catching up to platform economics. In 2023, both the Writers Guild of America and SAG-AFTRA cited the rise of streaming and reduced residuals as central issues during historic strikes that disrupted production across the industry.  

Frable emphasizes that the profession’s core value does not change. “You do you, and I’ll do me,” he says. Artists and athletes deserve to focus on their craft while accountants manage contracts, taxes, and cash flow.

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ACCOUNTING ARC

Free Speech Is a Right; Respect Is a Responsibility | ARC

Timing, venue, and state law shape what you say—and what it costs.

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Accounting ARC
With Liz Mason, Byron Patrick, and Donny Shimamoto
Center for Accounting Transformation

This conversation focuses on practice, not politics. 

Accounting leaders are urging firms to pair open expression with professional responsibility as political tensions spill into workplaces and social media feeds. In a new episode of Accounting ARC, hosts Liz Mason, CPA, CEO of High Rock Accounting; Byron Patrick, CPA.CITP, CGMA, CEO of VERIFYiQ and co-founder of TB Academy; and Donny Shimamoto, CPA.CITP, CGMA, founder and managing director of IntrapriseTechKnowlogies and the Center for Accounting Transformation, outline practical guardrails for speech that keep trust at the center. 

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The conversation opens with a condemnation of political violence and a call for grace as individuals and firms process fast-moving events. From there, the hosts shift to the workplace: what employees say online and in public often follows them to the office, and leaders must navigate the implications for culture, clients, and brand. 

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ACCOUNTING ARC

Henry: Is the Future of Finance with Nontraditional Accounting? | ARC

Combine technical knowledge with behavioral insights to create holistic client solutions.

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Accounting ARC
With Donny Shimamoto
Center for Accounting Transformation

Accountants have long been known as trusted advisors, but a growing movement is redefining what that means. In a recent episode of Accounting ARC, host Donny Shimamoto, CPA.CITP, CGMA, sat down with Rory Henry, CFP®, BFA™, to discuss how nontraditional accountants are transforming wealth management by embracing a holistic, human-first approach. 

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Henry is a director at Arrowroot Family Office, co-founder of AFO Wealth Management Forward, and author of Holistic Guide to Wealth Management: The Science Behind Integrating Services with The Human Side of Behavioral Financial Advice. His mission is to integrate tax and accounting expertise with behavioral finance and values-based planning to help clients achieve not only financial goals but also personal fulfillment.

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ACCOUNTING ARC

Cash Bags, Casinos & Audits: How First Jobs Shape Us | ARC

“As an auditor, you learn how non-financial events end up having a financial impact.”

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Accounting ARC
With Liz Mason, Byron Patrick, and Donny Shimamoto
Center for Accounting Transformation

On this episode of Accounting ARC, Liz Mason, CPA; Byron Patrick, CPA.CITP, CGMA; and Donny Shimamoto, CPA.CITP, CGMA, revisit their first accounting jobs. The conversation underscores how early exposure to operations, technology, and industry economics cultivates the judgment accountants need to interpret business realities.

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From hustling down the beach with bags of money to deploying field laptops with new tech to counting millions of dollars over 15 hours, each host shares a unique accounting beginning, but all have the same clear messaging.

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