Chris Hervochon: Be the Leader You Want to Work For

Avoid the mental gymnastics required to switch between customers in different industries and niche your services.

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The Disruptors
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Chris Hervochon is building his firm, Better Way CPA, “in a very specific way, for our tribes.” He explains, “Not everyone needs to be our customer, not everybody’s our tribe, not everybody needs to be our employee.” Leading with their core values, the process for bringing on new customers and new employees “weeds out the bad or the potentially poor fit customers,” which, in turn, helps with managing their time, the most valuable thing they have.

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His tribe includes marketing agencies, which he started working with by accident. Then, one day, he realized that “I like working with these people. They need help. Their model fits into what I’m doing. They’re professional services. They work roughly the same way that I do.” So he leaned into his niche.

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Jody Grunden: Subscription Pricing Is a Game Changer

Get rid of the noise of hourly billing and create value.

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The Disruptors
Part 1 of a two-part episode.
With Liz Farr

For over a decade, Jody Grunden, CPA, has been doing things that many firms are just now discovering. Summit Virtual CFO (now part of Anders) offers weekly subscription-based pricing as a fully remote firm, and their main offering is virtual CFO services or, in today’s parlance, CAS 2.0 services. He’s also the one you might spot at accounting conferences in his signature Tommy Bahama shirts instead of a suit and tie, not quite what you might expect from the leader of a $10 million firm.

JODY GRUNDEN, COMING IN PART 2, June 27: Be different. Make More Money
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Grunden, the partner and co-founder of Summit Virtual CFO, got his start as a thought leader and virtual CFO (as well as his signature wardrobe) when he was invited to speak at a conference in New Orleans. At the conference, he used an easel and pad of paper to walk a roomful of successful creative agency owners through the way they made money and how their decisions impacted the bottom line. He is the author of the best-selling Building the Virtual CFO Firm in the Cloud.

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